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Gordon Kingston's avatar

"Here is an idea. Why don’t both governments just secure the border of both Britain and Ireland? How about that?" Yes!

Great article.

Mfyffe's avatar

What about the border between the UK and the Republic of Ireland? That is a far more difficult conundrum.

Laura Perrins's avatar

You cannot police the land border. That's the point. And even if you could you know they just turn up and claim asylum on the spot. That's the point. The NI border is not the reason why the English channel which you would think would be easier to police is breached daily, not the reason why the RAF actually flew in 1000s of Afghanis and not the reason for the Boris Wave.

Mfyffe's avatar

The Channel is indeed easier to police - successive governments have simply refused to police it, instead sending a taxi service.

My point about the land border is that it is different when there is effectively no restriction at all. It gives the EU carte blanche to fill the Republic with incomers, in the knowledge that they can simply walk into the UK unhindered.

Yes it is difficult to police the land border, both physically (and in this case especially politically.) But other countries have land borders too and they manage to do something, rather than nothing. One difference is that once caught the "wrong" side of a border, people can be treated as being illegally in the country they crossed into andtaken back whence they came.

All Mouth And Trousers's avatar

The way to end this is to end asylum. If you read about the history of the asylum system you’ll see it was meant to be a gesture to show that we would never restrict Europeans fleeing from another dictator, not a system that allowed large swathes of Africa to move here because their countries are basket cases.

Andrew Marsh's avatar

Most of it is a bit wet and windy.

Mr Starmer KC used to be our Prime Minister.

Stout Yeoman's avatar

The CTA is indeed not the problem. The issue is how the Sudanese man flew from Paris to Dublin.

Ireland is not in Schengen. How did Alodid board a plane in Paris and how and why did Dublin let him in?

By all means rail against the British press and its knee jerk, thoughtless responses, but there is a deeper question about the Irish government's policy here.

Laura Perrins's avatar

Oh I 100% agree. But I thought I had that covered with 'lock both island dowqn.' As you know I pretty much treat them as one.

Stout Yeoman's avatar

We all agree with you - except for our two governments, haughtily dismissive as ever of the people they govern.

The EU migration pact comes into force on 1st July - i.e the agreement to let the Commission distribute migrants around EU countries. Albanian gangs now advertise the Irish route to the UK though soon to be redundantly once the EU arranges transfers to Ireland.

Alan Jurek's avatar

Great piece Laura, Diversity is our strength when it comes to stabbings, rapes and anti-white dogma. The real problem is no one from the Uniparty gives a fig about the UK, Ireland , (fill in the Western nation). 100% civil disobedience coming to a town near you !

Robert  Smith's avatar

Excellent article Laura. I wrote to our local Tory MP 5 years ago about what was happening in the English Channel. He gave me a stock reply; we now have a Lib Dem MP so there is no point in writing to him.

John McGuirk's avatar

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🫡

Jennifer Hargreaves's avatar

Here, here Laura. Due to get worse methinks.. thanks to the EU.

John Scales's avatar

I have just read the article. I would have to agree. The CTA is not the issue. I wonder why he didn't interview the residence of the homes that were damaged by fire. Incidentally I am in the CTA today for a day out.

Jacqueline W's avatar

Well said Laura. Agree with every word (including the sweary ones).

Zahid Sohail's avatar

Your swearing is, of course, none of my business, but you might like to consider if you use the 'f' word a little too often in your writing. When I swear, it's always accidental or in extreme moments. The frequent use of swear-words does no one any good.

Laura Perrins's avatar

I removed a swear word for this morning's blog. I was very quite angry when I wrote this one.

Anthony Stimson's avatar

I hope they read this at the offices of Starmer, Hermer and Wanker [Specialists in (sub)Human Rights Law].

Thanks for the trigger warning. Your appalling language left me only mildly traumatized

Andrew Marsh's avatar

S, H & W, human rights solicitors (back street division).

'No fee to small'.

G Wooster's avatar

Very well said Laura. He had no right to be here. Meanwhile a man lies with his face in tatters and the performative fury and concern about the reaction to this comes from the people who caused this. They have delivered a wretchedness upon us and have taken not one iota of responsibility and claim absolute avoidance of accountability. Sociopaths and no doubt some in their ranks are psychopaths.

Laura Perrins's avatar

It's appalling. He should never have been allowed to enter Dublin let alone Belfast. They should all be immediately detained and returned, whether they land in Dublin. Belfast or London. It's a joke.

Andrew Devine's avatar

As I’ve said before, the CTA will likely not survive in its current form should a Reform led government scrap the ECHR.

This is due to the fact that whatever political party/parties are in power in Dublin, they are all devoted “progressives” who support de facto open borders. A UK government that would scrap the ECHR would not be able to maintain an open border with a jurisdiction that stays signatory to the ECHR and grants amnesties every few years to failed asylum seekers and hands out passports to all and sundry after a few years in Ireland. It would be a back door into the UK for asylum scammers. The only hope of retaining the CTA in the long term might be a significant public backlash from the Irish electorate as well as amongst Brits of Irish heritage who don’t want to lose the CTA just so that the Republic of Ireland can be the main host in the British Isles for legions of Afghanis and Somalians and other assorted asylum scammers.

Laura Perrins's avatar

CTA predates the ECHR by about 100 years.

Andrew Devine's avatar

Does that automatically give it precedence over the ECHR? I know it is bolstered by various pieces of legislation that treat Irish and UK citizens as de facto citizens of both jurisdictions. That said, surely if the Irish government and Northern Irish politicians weaponise the ECHR (as its baked into the GFA) to block a Reform government’s immigration reforms then they would likely seek to amend legislation to scrap legislation that bolsters the CTA. I’d hate to see this happen, but I have no doubt that the Irish state and Sinn Fein In Northern Ireland will use the ECHR to try and block Reform’s immigration plans. In the likelihood of that event, I can’t see how a Reform government then wouldn’t seek to alter CTA arrangements.

Mfyffe's avatar
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It already is a back door into the UK. A UK government that scraps the ECHR would in theory be just as able to maintain as open a border with the Republic of Ireland, as a UK that left the EU.

There would be different parts of legislation to untangle, but the principle is the same.

All Mouth And Trousers's avatar

I believe you'll be seeing the end of the CTA within 3-5 years.

It's a leak in the border and if Reform get in and start kicking people out council houses and then out of the country the easiest place for them to flee to and get similar rights and bens (and housing) is Ireland. A few years working in Ireland, get citizenship then off to the EU or maybe stay in Ireland?

This makes Ireland a massive draw for migrants, maybe hundreds of thousands of them. So I suggest it would be in your own interest in Ireland to end the arrangement. There is also the issue for the UK that a crazy lefty govt in Ireland would start handing out citizenship and Britain would face a massive influx of people it cannot remove because of the CTA ( I wrote on this some time back).

Either way until both countries rid themselves of the unwanted I don't see the CTA remaining in place.

Andrew Marsh's avatar

A general strike, with a purge of NGOs.

Dougie 4's avatar

I read that the relevant Irish minister said that the Sudanese assassin "must have had a visa" to enter the country at Dublin airport. That must have is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

Immigration officers can refuse entry, visa or not, if they want to. What was the purpose of his visit? What Sudanese would choose Ireland for a holiday?

Laura Perrins's avatar

They are just all awful.