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Stout Yeoman's avatar

According to the DT the five were members of the "Lucky Dip" gang of joyriders whose social caché is built around terrorising people by driving the wrong way on busy roads and filming themselves.

"In Ireland, children who steal cars are usually dealt with under the Gardaí Youth Diversion Programme for the first few offences. They are likely to receive a caution, rather than a conviction."

"Police must consider 10 criteria before pursuing a stolen car, with many officers fearing they will face sanctions or even criminal charges if they engage in a pursuit – something police suspect the thieves are aware of. They had been told not to follow the stolen car before the crash on Sunday, the Garda Representative Association said."

These typically 16 year olds are legally treated as children, which they are, but their behaviour is akin to terrorism and Ireland has policy restrictions on the police that are ineffective in dealing with them. More deaths are possible unless the Irish State becomes less sentimental.

Car driving is an adult activity. 'Children' behaving as adults should be treated as adults for criminal law purposes.

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I read yesterday's post as well as today's.

The 'community' the young men come from is similar one not far from where I live - Police chases several times a week, theft, random dangerous driving with zero safety margin, unique older vehicles at end of life, visits by the Police helicopter once a month.

The issue....

Not all Police are trained to deal with high speed chases, so if a regular Police Person (he / she / zey / it) has 'a go', it's not going to be pretty. The crims know this, so stick mainly to smaller roads and also exploit inter-force boundary 'demarcation'. Over the county boarder, 'can't get me'.

However, once the chase is on, for the crims no risk is off the table.

Such as driving against on-coming traffic.

On dual lane uni-flow roads there are techniques which can run ahead of the chase and bring it to a conclusion before injury or death occurs. On smaller roads that is much harder to do.

No extra law required - but judges really do need to ensure young adults who offend do not just get a pat on the head and an early release.

It is, as Laura says, already against the law.

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